While vinyl records, in theory, directly encode a smooth audio wave, CDs sample that audio wave at various points and then collate those samples. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Please login or register an accountlogin or register an accountSACD vs CD-do you listen and compare SACD/CD layers on your discs? Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by BSC, Apr 13, 2015. Im just wondering when? Menu. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. • 180 Gram Vinyl Record. Deeper fuller sound across the board. The differences between them, resolution wise, are huge since XRCD is a pure red book format at 16/44. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Thank you. Sorry about my bad English. I don't know which is more truthful. There were two Marantz SACD players I was keeping my eye on: the 30n ($2999) and the SA-KI Ruby Signature player with DAC ($3999). Today I compared it with the 2003 SACD. 1 kHz sampling rate, SACD samples at 2. It's rather disingenuous to claim 150 dB dynamic range for CD audio. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. I'm generally rather selective about my SACD purchases and only have about 25-30SACD recordings now although I plan to order a lot more as more and more reissues come out. Multi. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. Aug 15, 2012. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. The initial presentation changed from relatively mechanical to one with atmosphere and naturalness. Just my $0. I think SACD has the best audio fidelity of any medium I have ever heard to date. . Vinyl Box Sets Numbered Limited Edition UltraDisc One-Step 45rpm SuperVinyl 2LP Box Set AMOBUD 028 $124. Dylan 'Desire' MFSL SACD and vinyl* Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jack White, Aug 2, 2013. The band did NOT like it at all. I see a trend, and I tend to do this myself, looking for older "original" cd releases of stuff if there are one or multiple re-masters available today. High Resolution: SACD offers a significantly higher sample rate and bit depth, resulting in more accurate and. Hopefully this will give you some ability to make a fairly knowledgeable leap to make the album purchase one way or another. This release was originally announced in late 2019 and fans have been waiting patiently ever since. Hendersonville, Tennessee Home of Cash & Orbison. When I got my better audio system I bought a dedicated two channel Sony SCD-1 player. The only significant differences are in noise. Please login or registerlogin or registerThe primary difference noted between the LP and SACD was the increased soundstage and depth of the SACD. To finish with the digital versions, the version in 360 (RA) Reality Audio brings a great rendering in 7. They are very. Gooey black bag houses an extremely high quality record sleeve with postcards, posters, 320 kbps MP3 download and sturdy inner sleeve and a very nice vinyl record in a plastic sleeve. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Just trust your ears, as I do mine. I hate the snaps clicks and pops of vinyl. Location: West Hollywood, CA and Inverness, IL. I'm generally rather selective about my SACD purchases and only have about 25-30SACD recordings now although I plan to order a lot more as more and more reissues come out. I much prefer CD to SACD. It sounds great; a very good remastering job. Even the UBP-X700 (cheaper) does SACD. To address a few questions; there are two seperate series, stereo and Mono in the Prestige SACD series, each with unique titles. • 180 Gram Vinyl Record. There's no real difference between the sound characteristics of vinyl, SACD or CD. The band's incendiary…I agree to a point, but "everything matters" and adding an well built, linear power supply to my source made a subtle but very, very noticeable improvement as did cableing, power cables, isolation, etc. Vinyl. In other words it needs some work to breath. I cant tell the difference with the CD's as they dont have as much range and clarity as the other 2. They pretty much mirror each other in my opinion. Quote: Originally Posted by daltonlanny CD's actually have a better signal to noise ratio in the top octave, and better dynamic range in the upper octave than SACD's do. If something has "Vinyl" in the title it's a needledrop. The MoFi vinyl is a real eye-opener. With a storage capacity of 4. The authors aren’t saying that high-res digital might sound a little different from Red Book CD but is no better. ssmith3046, Nov 28, 2012 #4. Given that they use the same mastering the answer is NO. I had some old albums I wanted to play, so I blew the dust off my 35 year old TT and fired that mut. . 8224 MHz. I don't know which is more truthful. I just listened closely to the MFSL SACD, the noises are audible at the end of every track. Los Angeles, CA. The best of both worlds is vinyl ripped on a very high end rig in High res and then converted to DSD. MikeT, Nov 3, 2019. Like the DVD, SACD was a dual-layer format, but instead of one or two high-density layers, the SACD could have a high-density layer and a CD-compatible layer, so the. Plan9 Mastering Engineer. Unfortunately, the vinyl and CDs were impressive but not immersive. Although this recording was digital, the Parsons 2017 remaster actually sounds more analogue than the original cd. Vinyl has more. (Not Eligible for Additional Discount) $35. Apr 23, 2008. In the world of high-fidelity audio, two formats have stood the test of time and continue to captivate audiophiles: SACD (Super Audio CD) and vinyl records. Then I bought the new SACD version. The SACD features the 2018 remix of the iconic 1977 Pink Floyd album for the first time, by long-time producer/engineer James Guthrie. SACD Players VS Vinyl Read More » The hybrid just has a separate layer for the CD bits. 2. • SHM Single Layer SACDs. all on Hybrid Multichannel SACD, in a special edition box set limited to 2,500 numbered copies! Also available as 45 RPM double LPs in a box set. I do have two different versions of "Question of Balance". Another 3 SACD set, and, if truth be told, my favourite ESOTERIC reissue. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. jupiterboy likes this. I grew up in the analogue days (vinyl and tape) so tape hiss is to be expected on recordings. SACD vs. SACD vs. But I don't like surface noise or pops or skips. . I can see how people still prefer vinyl over any other digital format, but this is most likely more subjective (vinyl has a special sound which is nice, no doubt). Again, though, the Blu-Spec CD sounded better than the regular CD - just a bit more fuller, more definition and tighter bass and treble extension over the CD. This is the reason why Pink Floyd did NOT consider Alan Parsons. Tim. Dam and Dorian75 like this. The internet has not only changed. I prefer digital (CD, SACD, DVD-A, BDA) but not into streaming - trying to collect the band's material on disc (especially the 70s/80s era stuff). Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - 45 RPM Vinyl Record. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. In my experience, 96/24 is only slightly better than 44/16. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. At all. Location: Finland. I voted 'Who Cares. If that makes sense. November 4th for CBAT. Compared to the vinyl, more rounded, less real. . Get either the target Morrison Hotel CD or the Audio Fidelity. You will enjoy the contrast and comparison. On the vinyl, the violin and the acoustic rhythm guitar lay back a bit, and there's a slightly rounded-off, woody tone to the drumming and the bass, and a very, very subtle tunneled, recessed quality to the vocals. 10/disc royalty for CDs. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. Luke theorizes that the 2003 SACD and the MFSL were sourced from an LP cutting master and that the original master mixes were used on the Biograph and GHII remasters. Virtual. Then I bought the new SACD version. Yes, but SACD's extend far above redbook. The vinyl appears to be analogue mastered so if you value an all-analogue chain that would be an advantage. A lot of pops and crackles ("a lot" for a brand new MFSL vinyl, I mean) on the. UPC: 093624979340: Availability:. Which format do you like the most, or find to be the closest to the original master tapes? Or, if you attend live concerts (or play and instrument), which format do you prefer and why? wenterprisesnw 02-04-2000 7:53pm. SHM-SACD vs original CD (WB), vs original vinyl (WB) I first cleaned each vinyl LP on my NG 1. Seems like for PG3 one should definitely get Classic Records Vinyl, for PG1 SACD gets closer to vinyl, but still the vinyl has upper hand. I do have two different versions of "Question of Balance". I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. the HDCD, the single-layer SACD, the MFSL SACD and vinyl, the Audio Fidelity vinyl, and the RSD candy-colored 150-numbered-limited pressing. SACD can get really close to how good vinyl can sound but not deteriorate so for me SACD wins. Also, at the very end of the song, you notice some more dramatic quiet spots on the CD, where the SACD seems to be "filled in" a bit more. This first example compares MoFi' s Music From Big Pink - LP vs. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. On the Analogue Productions SACD, the treble cacophony is bathed in a cushion of hall ambience that is far more realistic and less strident. Blows them all away with more full body richness. Bluebook The right price. This is really about "The Downward Spiral" re-release. Tracks (7) Aja — Steely Dan's landmark sixth studio album reissue. That leaves Soft Parade which also was released by Audio Fidelity. Madman Across the Water SACD vs CD vs LP. I wrote I was somewhat pleased with the mastering. Nirvana MTV Unplugged In New York (25th Anniv) (2019 Vinyl DGC B0029512-01) Nirvana MTV Unplugged In New York (Vinyl HR 180G) Paul. SACD or BluRay or good old fashioned CD's will never have the back catalog that vinyl has if your willing to dig through the crates. Most are remasters of jazz, blues, classical or classic rock/pop titles. Then I bought the new SACD version. Often times, the. I am not sure if it is a great. In the vinyl vs. Gooey black bag houses an extremely high quality record sleeve with postcards, posters, 320 kbps MP3 download and sturdy inner sleeve and a very nice vinyl record in a plastic sleeve. BD Pure Audio is basically the same as DVD-A except it's encoded to 96/24. Boy, what a difference. One is the MFSL version which I loved. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. #2. SACD VS Vinyl for Jazz and Classical Well, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl for a while now but still haven't done it. Location: United States. Instrumental and vocal decay became more and more discernible and authentic. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. For 11 years, I’ve enjoyed a Puccini + U-clock to spin CDs and (especially) SACDs. Mono audio was the first of all the (analog) audio formats and formed the basis for radio and analog TV for many years; including vinyl records. Vinyl. This opinion is based on over 2 dozen CD, SACD/CD players and transport/DACS I've heard here over the past 18 months. Or that only some PS3s do SACD?neverbe said: ↑. SACD obviously has an advantage on portability and probably overall SQ - but that's still subjective as I might enjoy the "colorization" of vinyl more. Analog sources- CD vs. First I played my vinyl copy yesterday and found it be exquisite. SACD offers pristine, high-resolution digital audio with exceptional detail, while vinyl provides a warm, analog character and a tactile, nostalgic experience. This is why CDs sample sound at 44. Vinyl. Vinyl: SACD offers digital precision, while vinyl provides analog warmth and character. Virtual Systems Let the world see what you've built. Nantes, France. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. . It sounds manipulated and phony. I don't know which is more truthful. A lot of pops and crackles ("a lot" for a brand new MFSL vinyl, I mean) on the. Tony Plachy, Jan 7, 2015. Native DSD64 (SACD) is better still and DSD128 recordings are amazingly good. The LP may sound more natural and "warm". DVD-Audio vs Vinyl vs. The vinyl reissues of this title (box set and standalone) are revelatory. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. True. I don't know which is more truthful. It was mastered by Bob Ludwig in December 2002. There are very few times I like the CD better than the LP. My buddy and I compared Tidal's "Moving Pictures" to the vinyl reissue. Edit; I forgot I have one. It lacks the deep bass of the Abkco pressing but sounds so much more "vivid" and real. So far my favorites from each format are as follows: SACD: Eric Clapton - Journeyman DVD-A: Fleetwood Mac - Rumors DVD (Dolby Digital/DTS): Eagles. The choice between the two depends on personal preferences and the desired. All titles are mastered from the original analog tapes by Bernie. Still waiting form "Brothers in Arms" on SACD I have also ordered the MoFi vinyl releases of: "Love Over Gold", "Dire Straits" and "Brothers in Arms" I look forward to comparing SACD vs Vinyl *reelspin* My thought process is I should buy them while they are relatively new and prices have not reached $200+ each yet. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. The overall DR between the 2 is very close. 7 to 8. Moody Blues "Question of bal. DJM CD very excellent as is the MCA clone mastering of the DJM. The critics used a very expensive sacd player against a very expensive turntable. although I get the impression they just don’t put the same effort into the SACD release. It lacks the deep bass of the Abkco pressing but sounds so much more "vivid" and real. It was developed jointly by Sony and Philips Electronics and intended to be the successor to the compact disc (CD) format. SACD vs. . My DCC is definitly better. The SACD I found is always better, that’s if you have the right SACD player like the DMP. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. The real difference. Joined Mar. I don’t care what they claim they did to the CD. The dynamic range of vinyl is about 75dB, CD is 96dB, SACD is 120dB, and the human ear picks up 130dB. SACD. . I've heard to the contrary, that the QUAD version. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. Since this mess I want to compare more where I have overlap. . cporcp, Jun 28, 2021 #7. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. Super Audio CD (SACD) is an optical disc format for audio storage introduced in 1999. Newly remastered by Bernie Grundman, from the original analog master tapes! Includes both mono and stereo mixes — Pure DSD sound! *cd layer contains stereo mix only. Please, bear in mind that I have NO original vinyls to compare to, only the early CDs of Shake It Up and Greatest Hits: 1) Shake It Up - the worse pressing from the three. I collect and have sizable collection of vinyl from 23 years of solid collecting. . This first example compares MoFi' s Music From Big Pink - LP vs. One is the MFSL version which I loved. . Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. 1kHz/16-bit digital audio is indistinguishable from high-resolution digital. Like the DVD, SACD was a dual-layer format, but instead of one or two high-density layers, the SACD could have a high-density layer and a CD-compatible layer, so the. Smoother, more open, and slightly fuller than redbook, without the added distortion of vinyl or the oddness in the upper registers heard on SACD. The separation between the left and right channels on vinyl is 30dB, compared to digital files, which exceed 90 dB. 6%. By meatballz August 2, 2011 in General Hi-Fi Discussion. Maybe no better overall than any other version. ) than the original 2002 redbook CD. It’s appalling the crap they’re releasing to kids these days…As noted in my previous post [link], the Forum didn’t want to pay the $. The album features classics such as "Spanish Castle Magic," "Little Wing," "Castles Made Of Sand,". During the summer I don't get much seat time in front of the stereo so it might be a week or more before my next chance. SACD vs. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. Edit; I forgot I have one. I'm a pretty big NIN fan, so price isn't a problem, I'm just wondering if the Vinyl player would be higher quality than the SACD Deluxe Version. Acoustic Sounds Audiophile Vinyl Records. By all means, get the 4 DCC's. I would think that the Vinyl will sound better than the standard CD. 98: Grateful Dead / Workingman's Dead Hybrid Stereo SACD Numbered Limited Edition CMOB 2137 SA Original Price: $29. Not that the SACD doesn't sound really good. This one is the best sounding by far. Roland. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. The SACD is definitely much more forward and vivid across the board, with ringing steel strings and a real bite to the violin. Limited Edition Numbered SACD CMOB 2260 SA $29. No other version other than their double 45 rpm vinyl (also mediocre) sounds like this. 1. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. . After an extensive shoot-out lasting 53 hours, I'm. DVD-Audio/SACD vs Vinyl sound quality? Discussion in ' Music Corner ' started by Vinophile, May 22, 2006 . I don't know which is more truthful. A digital recording doesn't degrade overtime like a record does when played too many times. The 2003 hybrid SACD and the MFSL feature the original mix, but they have inferior sound to the JWH tracks which appear on. Please, bear in mind that I have NO original vinyls to compare to, only the early CDs of Shake It Up and Greatest Hits: 1) Shake It Up - the worse pressing from the three. SACD VS Vinyl for Jazz and Classical Well, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl for a while now but still haven't done it. If you want to try SACD on a budget (relatively), the Sony UBP-X800M2 Blu-Ray player plays SACDs (as well as DVD Audio, which does high-res surround). Boy, what a difference. Multi-Channel Audio: SACDs often feature multi-channel audio, allowing for surround sound experiences. Some vinyl is very quiet while others are not . The only significant differences are in noise. All great stuff and this combined with the revitalized vinyl market bodes well for my enjoyment of music at home and is a much brighter picture than I saw when the future of audio seemed only CD and compressed. Overall, Aja represents a high-water mark in Steely Dan's career, showcasing the band's unique blend of. Data read from an SHM CD is no different to the data red from an ordinary CD. In-Stock Music Orders Over $99 SHIP FREE Within The Continental U. comparing your AV receiver's DAC to your CD player's DAC is completely valid. There are records for every genre of music I listen to, whereas almost nothing I listen to is ever released on SACD. I prefer the SACD. The RCA CD of Respighi’s Pines of Rome opens with a wall of sound plastered along the frontal plane of the speakers. DACs sound different because different DACs apply different filters to the input data and have different methods of producing the analogue signal, even if every DAC used the same chip each DAC's analogue output stage is different. 8224 MHz (64 times that of CD) Bit Depth: 1-bit (compared to CD’s 16-bit) Channels: Multi-channel (up to 6) and stereo Storage Capacity: Typically 4. If you like SACDs, the 2004 reissue of Relaxin’ by the Miles Davis Quintet sounds equally fantastic, albeit a little different with a. Boy, what a difference. Boy, what a difference. I have a feeling the vinyl will sound better. I live near a JVC distributor and have access to many of the titles. In 1973, the Best Of The Doors compilation album was issued on quadraphonic LP, 8-track, and reel formats. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. CD, SACD vs LP, Vinyl, Album#CD #vinyl #hifiFor those of you who have not seen my complete music room and system tour and LP, CD SACD tour please click on th. I don't know which is more truthful. See moreSACD obviously has an advantage on portability and probably overall SQ - but that's still subjective as I might enjoy the "colorization" of vinyl more. Let those on the discussion who know Sonos explain what Sonos can do and play better. I'm hoping that everyone who has voted actually owns both, and are not just excited about the 2016. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage . I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. SACD- smooth, mellow sound. Third - Single side Japanese SACD . Share Jun 15, 2007 at 8:50 AM Post #29 of 33 Forest Design 100+ Head-Fier. SACD, to me, just doesn't sound real, life-like, or true. I own the Nautalus half-speed master from the 70's and owned the SACD. e. Fourth - 45 rpm vinyl . Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. By Kimo January 22, 2012 in General Forum. Low Noise Floor: SACDs tend to have a lower noise floor compared to vinyl records, which means less background noise or surface noise during playback. Then I bought the new SACD version. 1k Posted October 24, 2003 The XRCD probably had a goosed up high end and somebody was fooled into preferring it. I compared the 2003 SACD and the Mofi: the noise is certainly clearer on the Mofi, but it's present on the 2003. At current SACD and vinyl reissue prices I sure do. Blows them all away with more full body richness. While the standard CD format is tied to a 44. It sounds like MoFi master their vinyl and SACD separately. I have the five Steve Wilson blu-ray audio 5. Both are also 4K UHD Blu-Ray players. Better than vinyl, better than reel-to-reel, better than CD and even better than DVD-Audio. Durability: SACDs are more durable and resistant to scratches compared to vinyl records. But for myself, I think that SACD, when it is really done right (ei: A really good true DSD player, combined with either Pure-DSD recordings, or DSD from pure analog recordings) has many of the. The dynamics of the attack are still there, but the leading edge lacks aggressiveness and sounds much smoother. Hello, I have never listened to a SACD system and would like to know how it compares to vinyl. Vinyl. Truth is, there aren't really any bad sounding versions of this moody gem since the first pressing back in spring 1971. Hi all, Im searching for some way to test SACD compared to vinyl. I run through a comparison review about this subject today. Sign in with Google Even the standard redbook CD (44kHz, 16 bit resolution) has about a 26dB advantage to vinyl with respect to dynamic range, and at least a 40-50 dB advantage in stereo separation as well as unmeasurable wow and flutter. DVD-Audio vs Vinyl vs. . Just for kicks I decided to compare Side A of the Speakers Corner vinyl to the same corresponding songs on the JSACD. better stereo separation, etc. vinyl, I don't have vinyl so can't really tell. In the vinyl vs. The DVD Forum, headed by Toshiba, refused to pay patent royalties to Sony and Philips, and they launched a competing format: DVD-Audio, which couldn’t be played in a CD player. Rolling Stone ranked them No. Dylan 'Desire' MFSL SACD and vinyl* Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jack White, Aug 2, 2013. Tullman, Jul 31,. Buy both. A good vinyl record (that is scratch free, been cleaned on a vacume based record cleaner) sounds better then a CD, with again broader, deeper sound field, smoother over all audio, etc. My favourite Mix of Dark Side of the Moon is a Bootleg believe it or not , The Alan Parsons Original Quadrophonic Mix. disc duplication: The Indie Music Minute. Menu. Like a garage/ alley band. The presence of the CD layer shouldn't affect at all (at least in principle) the reading of the SACD layer. Bluebook The right price. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. #6. The vinyl appears to be analogue mastered so if you value an all-analogue chain that would be an advantage. CD has a tint. But the dramatic difference occurs in vinyl. 0:00 - LP2. Tiny imperfections in the belts or wheels of the turntable will cause more. CD - page 2 Filters for SACD and DVD-Audio . As for a good sacd,the one recording i really is by Roger Waters "in the flesh - live". For Up, SACD is the one to get. Australia. e. Thread Tools. Both needed to be set up properly and tracked at their maximum rated vertical tracking force. The gap. So far I had different results. So far my favorites from each format are as follows: SACD: Eric Clapton - Journeyman DVD-A: Fleetwood Mac - Rumors DVD (Dolby Digital/DTS): Eagles. Audiogon The world's largest high-end audio community. The data is read by a laser, and then decoded to produce audio playback. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Steely Dan-Cant Buy A Thrill-Hybrid Stereo SACD|Acoustic Sounds. . Sponsor NewsMini-meet Shootout: AKG K1000 vs. #20. As for sound I am betting you will become a believer in the merits of vinyl. $12. You can’t go wrong there. Worse yet, the voices felt 'simplified' somehow, almost boring. I am intrigued by it but don't know if it would really give me any better quality for some recordings than what I already have. As noted in my previous post [link], the Forum didn’t want to pay the $. KeithH Success With Honor. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. CD. of the Dark Side of the Moon, is NOT good sonically. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. Both vinyl records and Super Audio CDs have their merits and drawbacks, and the choice ultimately comes down to personal taste and priorities. While vinyl records, in theory, directly encode a smooth audio wave, CDs sample that audio wave at various points and then collate those samples. Forums. Vinyl. The "Mastertape" version though more detailed and seemingly purer sounds flatter in eq.